GE Statistics (new posts) http://www.geosap.org/forum/c-24764/ge-statistics Posts in the forum category "GE Statistics" - Discussion of using Google Earth to generate statistics for mapped ski areas. http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271#post-102602 Priorities: Re: Priorities http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271/priorities#post-102602 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:11:45 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 good to hear you're making progress. I found a couple pages on getting alt info a while back. I'll try and find them again.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271#post-102594 Priorities: Re: Priorities http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271/priorities#post-102594 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:59:44 +0000 AndyEich 62897 FYI, now have access to lat/lon info, but still working on alt. "sort of" have access to color—I can see it is available, but I need to do more work to find it automatically. kml is a weird standard.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-92328 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-92328 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:45:21 +0000 AndyEich 62897 Made some progress last night. Wasted a bunch of time with utilities to convert kml2csv, but then got pseabury's API wrapper to compile and made some slight modifications to dump the names of all states, areas, and trails to a text file when you run the executable. It will take a good bit more experimentation to access trail properties (even lat/lon/alt), and certainly a while to figure out how to make it run from within GE, but I feel a lot better about it than I did a day ago.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-92010 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-92010 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:21:21 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 I have some experience in Java, and I'm working slowly on working up a java app for this which I can use to base the JS off of. I also have found a C# compiler for mac. I would personally tend to lean towards the open source route, but that's just my personal prejudices talking. Let's work a little more on our own and see what works before we make any decisions.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-91992 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-91992 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:54:14 +0000 AndyEich 62897 I did consider Java but found it was not as popular in the GE forum. Is javascript a "real enough" language to support this kind of stuff? Last time I used it was ~1996 and it was just to do user prompts and popup windows in web pages; I assumed it was not full-featured but must be wrong.

My first choice would have been C++ since I used to know that, but GE forum people said it is a lot more difficult when you can't use the .net stuff (which I think requires VB, VC#, or VJ) and people with more time and experience than I seem to be trying the C++ route without success.

I have a programmer friend who has time and offered to help, but he hates MS so if we go that route it will be all on Linux and with open languages/compilers. That made me nervous because he hasn't used GE and the two people I know who do *lots* of GE development are completely Visual Studio / C# based. They are people I work with, so I would feel guilty about asking them for help until I've had time to make reasonable progress myself.

If we don't make progress in a couple months, I will go ahead and ask another friend for help who can do anything in no time. While I don't think he's wed to it, I think he does most of his stuff in Visual Studio on Windows.

So all things considered, if I am to make progress on the software (and by all means, feel free to try it as well in any way possible, or if we find a real programmer I'd be ecstatic to leave it all to him/her), I felt the C# route offered the biggest safety net.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-91425 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-91425 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:54:39 +0000 Anonymous Andy, have you thought at all about using Javascript, in order to be more cross platform? I'm on a mac, and if you use c# i can't help at all. JS is completely cross platfrom and probably better used for this sort of web-deployment.

-David

I keep forgetting to log in!

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-89366 wiki visit statistics: Re: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-89366 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:06:09 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 alright, you're in. Just log into google analytics with your name and you should be able to look at the reports and everything.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-89315 wiki visit statistics: Re: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-89315 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:25:30 +0000 AndyEich 62897 Cool, I'm andyeich on google, too.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-89307 wiki visit statistics: Re: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-89307 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:03:54 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 couple questions on this subject for you andy.
1. Do you have a google account? Gmail? anything like that, and I can add you to the stats account so you can view them.
2. Stats since I added StatCounter:

Wednesday 9th January 2008 222 pageviews 24 Unique Visitors 13 First Time Visitors 11 Returning Visitors
Tuesday 8th January 2008 376 31 23 8
Monday 7th January 2008 113 45 39 6

As you can see by this stat, for the lsat three days, first time visits are down, and returning visits are up. That tells me people are checking back on the site.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-86410 wiki visit statistics: Re: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-86410 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:14:22 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 The easiest way to keep your usage out of the stats is to log in to wikidot.com before you go to the site. Our visits aren't counted when logged in.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-86203 wiki visit statistics: Re: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-86203 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:35:55 +0000 AndyEich 62897 I'm in Arlington, MA on comcast when at home and have accessed the site from work as well. Is there an "ipconfig /all" entry that will tell my work's block of addresses?

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-86192 wiki visit statistics: Re: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-86192 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:08:38 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 Yes. But the statistics aren't that accurate at the moment, because I'm in New Hampshire, on the hotel internet, so my IP is different. Since we've started the site until now (Jan. 2 9:00 PM EST) there have been 28 visits with 524 pageviews. I tried to isolate the download links but i couldn't. I'd give you the password to the stats page, but its registed under my google account so I can't. But yeah. Where do you live? It gives views by location, so if you tell me what town you live in/where your IP is registed then I can tell if other people are looking at the site.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511#post-86150 wiki visit statistics: wiki visit statistics http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33511/wiki-visit-statistics#post-86150 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:34:16 +0000 AndyEich 62897 Does wikidot allow us to see reports about how people are using the site? I know the site isn't done, but I'm curious how many people are already downloading the maps we've created.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271#post-85565 Priorities: Re: Priorities http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271/priorities#post-85565 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:48:00 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 sounds good to me. I'll be "off the grid" until late friday night so I won't be able to get much done between now and then. Let me know if you need any help with that stat stuff. I have some experience in java, but not very much. I already got Google Earth API key for this domain, so that should be all set. I'm not sure how to access it, but it's there.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271#post-85555 Priorities: Priorities http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33271/priorities#post-85555 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:05:14 +0000 AndyEich 62897 I think I'm going to hold off on generating new trail maps for now. Since it looks like you're working the standards section, I'll do some work toward getting a "proof of concept" statistics calculation working, or at the very least I'll do enough research to know exactly what we need help with.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-85388 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-85388 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:59:55 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 Sounds good to me. I'm working on finishing an Attitash map, and i'll finish up the standards page sometime tomorrow, i hope. Then i'm off to loon until friday. I'll try to get as much done between now and then as i can.

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-85380 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-85380 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:36:48 +0000 AndyEich 62897 That would be awesome, but I'm sure it's beyond my capabilities. How about if we take things a little further over the next couple days, then go back to the NELSAP thread and see if we can find others who are interested?

]]> http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-85346 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-85346 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:30:15 +0000 davidhowland14 62856
  • Total vertical of area.
  • Total acreage of area.
  • Avg grade of area

    • Ideally we could have an unlimited number of statistics that are generated by a program. Then the user could suggest what they want to view. Would there be an easy way to move that statistical information from GE to the website. Ideally there could be a feed set up which would update as the GE files are updated.

    ]]>     http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-85335 How to: Re: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-85335 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:52:19 +0000 AndyEich 62897 Yes, I posted some of suggested statistics in this thread, and while I don't know exactly how to generate such statistics yet, I know someone who writes "application folders" for GE that take inputs from GE (placemarks, notes within placemark properties, etc) and generate KML files that automatically load into GE. We would only need to do the first part of this, and based on discussions I've had with him, I have the impression it's not too difficult. While I haven't gone through it yet, he gave me a tutorial / "hello world" in C# that should get me started. If need be, I can do this myself, though I think it might be easier & faster to find someone who is a real programmer who wants to participate in the project.

    I think first it would be best to generate our "requirements," basically a brainstormed list of statistics we want to be able to generate and how we'd like them to be displayed. I am assuming that to make this accessible, we'll try to minimize the stuff done in C#, export the data to csv/Excel and do most calculations and graphs there—any thoughts on that proposal?

    ]]>     http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175#post-85332 How to: How to http://www.geosap.org/forum/t-33175/how-to#post-85332 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:13:34 +0000 davidhowland14 62856 Andyeich, over on SnowJournal you posted saying that it would be fairly easy to make add-on programs which would generate statistics for the trails and lifts. Would you mind posting on how to do this? I assume it's part of the Google Earth API?

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